Os crentes voltaram de férias

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  Anónimo

  9 de Setembro, 2011 at 16:11

  O sr. Esperança saiu do seu casulo para vir debitar as suas habituais generalidades. É uma espécie de disco falacioso, arranhado, mas o homem aprecia essa demonstração de ” elevação” intelectual, que o seu canhestro proselitismo não consegue superar. Pela amostra do texto, o homem percebe bem mais de efabulações freudianas do que seria suposto admitir.

  Ei-lo agora todo impante de pseudo- sabedoria, a botar discurso sobre supostas condicionantes de ordem sexual. O homem lá sabe do que fala, mas a sua espelhada imagem não lhe confere validação legitimadora para tecer exercícios abrangentes, mais do que os que dele próprio se reflectem  no espelho da sua triste e cinzenta caserna.

  Descontando a libidinosidade dos seus constrangedores fantasmas sexuais,quererá agora o simplista escriba sustentar que só os ateus é que se insurgem contra a mesquinhice e indignidade de livros abjectos como o Levítico e o Deuterónimo.

  O sr. Esperança também ainda não arrancou do AT, mas, passo a passo,estou convicto que a sua cultura livresca e a sua renitente bílis hão-de melhorar e qualquer dia ainda aqui o azedo escriba aparecerá bem mais aliviado das suas amarguras existenciais, para nos brindar com outro prato dos seus destemperados cozinhados.

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  Paulo Calvo

  9 de Setembro, 2011 at 20:06

  Virgens parideiras é coisa que num me assiste.

  A sua resposta tem algo de parvo.Já experimentou abrir os olhos? Vá lá, um de cada vez… Num custa nada.
  Vá lá num acha divertido que se ajoelhem à frente de um instrumento de tortura?
  E se o alegado JC tivesse morrido enforcado andava com uma forcazinha à volta do cachaço?

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  Anónimo

  9 de Setembro, 2011 at 20:56

  A resposta de Vexa está ao nível da sua propria parvoeira. E deve ter aprendido a errada lição com o sr. Esperança, de visionar como imagem alheia a que resulta do mero reflexo espelhado da sua própria pessoa. Será que o espelho não é o mesmo ou o seu nível é que  também anda muito por baixo ?

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  Anónimo

  10 de Setembro, 2011 at 6:18

  Você “num” percebeu que ele estava a brincar ?

  Queres tanto armar em intelectual e nem consegues perceber o sentido dos textos mais simples.

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  Anónimo

  10 de Setembro, 2011 at 12:18

  Você, como é incorrigivelmente bronco, pôs-se agora a tentar possuir dotes divinatórios que não possui.

  Só cá faltava o lambe-botas dos ateus armado em profeta de meia-tigela.
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  BBB

  9 de Setembro, 2011 at 22:18

  Pronto, o António Fernando voltou a ler literatura para pobres. Era isto o que ele queria dizer com a esfregona de letras que postou.

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  Anónimo

  10 de Setembro, 2011 at 6:21

  Boa ideia nandinho, de vez emq uando pores os etus nicks a discordar entre si.  Ajuda à credibilidade.  

  Pena é que, por esta altura, a gente já consiga cheirar as tuas aldrabices à légua.

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  Anónimo

  10 de Setembro, 2011 at 12:16

  Outra barata tonta que não tem onde cair morta, desde que foi expulso à primeira da casa do BB.

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  Athan3

  9 de Setembro, 2011 at 17:22

  “Sinal de +”, essa foi boa; pior é que nem é um sinal de “mais”, é um cotoco mal cortado de um eixo ortogonal, aquilo fere a vista. Tentativa lamentável dos que perderem o sentido dos símbolos. e muito pior ainda: Crasso sinal do Terror imposto aos que não arriam em subserviência; só safardanas imporiam uma enganação com esse formato e com um intento tão sórdido.

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  Stéphanos

  9 de Setembro, 2011 at 17:43

  http://bogihrvati.webs.com/inenglishlanguage.htm

  Textes in English Language

  Mass grave of history: Vatican’s WWII identity crisis By Julia Gorin 
  02/22/2010 22:47
  Catholic Church, looking for a bulwark against communism, supported what became genocidal regime of Nazi satellite Croatia.
  The controversy over the canonization of Pope Pius XII
  concerns whether he spoke out enough against the slaughter of Jews
  during World War II. But that question is a red herring when trying to
  grasp the big picture of the Vatican’s role during the war. The real question is whether the Vatican supported the world order,
  or at least aspects of it, that the Third Reich promised to bring, a
  world order in which dead Jews were collateral damage – which Pius
  indeed regretted. The answer can be found in a region of Europe that is
  generally ignored despite being the nexus of world wars: the Balkans.
  The Catholic Church was looking for a bulwark against expanding,
  ruthless, church-destroying communism, but in doing so it supported a
  Croatian movement called Ustasha, which rose to become the genocidal
  regime of Nazi satellite Croatia. American historian Jared Israel points to a February 17, 1941 New York Times article which reported that the archbishop of Zagreb
  (Croatia’s capital), Alojzije (Aloysius) Stepinac, was holding
  conferences in Vatican City “seeking the freedom of Catholic priests
  detained in [pre-Nazi] Croatia in connection with the circulation of…
  ‘Free Croatia!’ pamphlets, attributed to Ante Pavelic.” Pavelic, who
  once criticized Hitler for
  originally being too soft on the Jews, was the founder of the fascist
  Ustashas, who were engaging in terrorism all over Europe to “liberate”
  Croatia from Yugoslavia. He famously said, “A good Ustasha is one who
  can use a knife to cut a child from the womb of its mother.” Israel explains the significance of the understated Times
  article: “The arrested priests were agitating for a fascist coup
  d’etat,” and if these had been rogue priests, “the Vatican would have
  disciplined them and perhaps issued a statement condemning them; it
  certainly would not have [held] top-level conferences to manage their
  defense.” At the time, Pavelic was being harbored in Mussolini’s Italy – where his Ustasha soldiers were being trained – after France
  sentenced him to death for masterminding the 1934 double assassination
  of Yugoslavian King Alexander I and French foreign minister Louis
  Barthou. When Hitler invaded Yugoslavia in April 1941, Pavelic was
  activated and became fuehrer, or “Poglavnik,” of the new,
  clerical-fascist Croatia. Archbishop Stepinac held a banquet
  for Pavelic, blessed the Ustasha leader and regime, calling them “God’s
  hand at work,” and the following month had Pavelic received by Pius XII.
  This was four days after the massacre in the town of Glina, where the
  Ustashas locked hundreds of Serbian Orthodox inside their church and
  burned it down, as became standard practice in Pavelic’s Independent State of Croatia
  (known by its Croatian acronym NDH). Pius XII received Pavelic despite a
  Yugoslav envoy’s request that he not do so, given the atrocities taking
  place. In July of that year, Pavelic’s minister of education,
  Mile Budak, publicly outlined the purification process, already being
  implemented against Serbs: Kill a third, expel a third, convert a third.
  That August, more than a thousand Serbs had gathered inside another
  Glina church for conversion, after which Zagreb police chief Bozidar
  Corouski announced, “Now that you are all Roman Catholics, I guarantee
  you that I can save your souls, but I cannot save your bodies.” In came
  Ustasha henchmen with bludgeons, knives and axes, killing all but one
  man – Ljuban Jednak – who played dead, then stole away from the mass
  grave he was dumped into. Pius and Pavelic continued exchanging “cordial telegrams,”
  as author Vladimir Dedijer – former cochairman of Bertrand Russell’s
  International War Crimes Tribunal – wrote in his 1992 book The Yugoslav Auschwitz and the Vatican. The Croatian Catholic press consistently published approving articles about the regime. In his forthcoming book The Krajina Chronicles: A Short History of Serbs in Croatia,
  Slavonia and Dalmatia, Dr. Srdja Trifkovic writes, “A part of the Roman
  Catholic hierarchy became de facto accomplices, as did a majority of
  the clergy. The leading NDH racial ‘theorist’ was a clergyman, Dr. Ivo
  Guberina… He urged Croatia’s ‘cleansing of foreign elements’ by any
  means. His views were echoed by the influential head of the Ustasha
  Central Propaganda Office, Fr. Grga Peinovic. “When the
  anti-Serb and anti-Jewish racial laws of April and May 1941 were
  enacted, the Catholic press welcomed them as vital for ‘the survival and
  development of the Croatian nation’… Archbishop of Sarajevo [then
  part of Croatia] Ivan Saric declared… ‘It is stupid and unworthy of
  Christ’s disciples to think that the struggle against evil could be
  waged… with gloves on.'” IN AN unusual move, Germany
  entrusted Croatia with running its own concentration camps, without
  oversight. Shamefully, clergy members took a voracious dive into the
  bloodbath, serving as guards, commanders and executioners at the 40
  camps, most famously Jasenovac, the Holocaust’s third-largest yet least
  spoken-of camp. There, they killed Serbs, Jews, Gypsies and anti-fascist
  Croats. On August 29, 1942, a friar from the monastery of Siroki
  Brijeg, named Petar Brzica, won first place for killing the most Serbs
  in the shortest time, boasting 1,350 throats slit in one night.
  Historian Carl Savich quotes an AP report stating that “a priest from
  Petricevac led Croat fascists, armed with hatchets and knives, to a
  nearby village. In the 1942 attack, they butchered 2,300 Serbs.”
  Testimony from a survivor of that February 7 massacre, Selo Drakulic,
  reads: “Prior to killing the adults, unborn children were violently cut
  from their mothers’ womb[s] and slaughtered. Of the remaining children
  in the village, all under the age of 12, the Ustashas brutally removed
  arms, legs, noses, ears and genitals. Young girls were raped and killed,
  while their families were forced to witness the violation and carnage.
  The most grotesque torture of all was the decapitation of children,
  their heads thrown into the laps of their mothers, who were themselves
  then killed.” Archive photos of sadism that would make horror
  filmmakers blush survive today: Ustashas displaying an Orthodox priest’s
  head; an eyeless peasant woman; Serbs and Jews being pushed off a
  cliff; a Serb with a saw to his neck; and a smiling Ustasha holding the
  still-beating heart of prominent industrialist Milos Teslitch, who had
  been castrated, disemboweled and his ears and lips cut off. Italian writer Curzio Malaparte in his 1944 book Kaputt
  offers this detail: “While [Pavelic] spoke, I gazed at a wicker basket
  on the Poglavnik’s desk [which] seemed to be filled with mussels, or
  shelled oysters… ‘Are they Dalmatian oysters?’ I asked. [Pavelic] said
  smiling, ‘It is a present from my loyal Ustashas… Forty pounds of
  human eyes.'” In their 1991 book Unholy Trinity: The Vatican, the Nazis and the Swiss Banks, reporter Mark Aarons and former Justice Department attorney John Loftus corroborate the grisly Croatian crimes, as does Genocide in Satellite Croatia 1941-1945 by Edmond Paris: “The Italians photographed an Ustasha wearing two chains of human tongues and ears around his neck.”
  It has been 60 years, and the world still doesn’t know the story of
  wartime Croatia, where not only did the Vatican not speak out against
  crimes, not only was it complicit in the genocide of a million people,
  but it subsequently never expressed remorse for the spilled Orthodox
  blood as it’s done for Jewish blood. Because the world never demanded
  it. Which points to the same apprehensions that have dogged Jewish
  groups about the Vatican’s genuineness, especially with its reluctance
  to open archives about Pius’s World War II conduct. ONE CAN’T
  help wondering whether the Vatican as an institution was silently
  cheering the decimation of its Orthodox rival. Stepinac, who was
  photographed blessing the Ustashas before an upcoming battle or
  slaughter, reported in May 1944 the good news about 244,000 forced
  conversions to Pius. (Pius himself might have caught BBC
  broadcasts such as on February 16, 1942: “The Orthodox are being
  forcibly converted to Catholicism and we do not hear the archbishop’s
  voice preaching revolt. Instead it is reported that he is taking part in
  Nazi and fascist parades.”) Observing the liquidation of Croatia’s
  Orthodox, Heinrich Himmler’s second-in-command, Reinhard Heydrich,
  wrote a February 17, 1942, letter to Himmler stating, “It is clear that
  the Croat-Serbian state of tension is not least of all a struggle of
  the Catholic Church against the Orthodox Church.” It is not Jews to whom the Church owes the biggest apology over World War II, but Serbs. If by not speaking out about Europe’s
  Jews Pius hoped to avoid endangering millions of Catholics, what could
  have been the reason for not speaking out about Croatia, which itself
  horrified the Nazis to the point that German and Italian soldiers
  started shielding Serbs from Ustashas? And what would have been the risk
  to the faithful inside Croatia? A July 5, 1994, Washington Times
  article attempted to get to the bottom of why so little is known of the
  Croatia chapter of World War II, and why Jasenovac is so rarely spoken
  of: “For years the gruesome details… remained officially taboo.
  Although documents and eyewitness accounts were at first ignored, and
  then mysteriously removed from international archives… [i]t now
  appears that a vast international conspiracy involving Marshal Josip
  Broz Tito… [and] the United Nations,
  some Vatican officials and even Jewish organizations strove to keep the
  Jasenovac story buried forever… Tito’s watchwords were ‘brotherhood
  and unity,’ and to pursue these high goals he tried to erase the chapter
  of Jasenovac. The West generally went along, particularly after Tito
  broke with Stalin in 1948. The Vatican wanted to protect Roman Catholic
  Croats, who had been willing Nazi proxies in the Balkans. “The silence of Jewish organizations is less easily explained… [The late Milan Bulajic, of Belgrade’s Genocide Museum, met] officials of the Holocaust Museum
  [in Washington to] find out why no one mentions the Yugoslav Jews who
  died there. He did not seem to get a clear-cut answer… When Yugoslavia
  fell apart in 1991… troops of newly independent Croatia briefly
  captured the site and, according to Serbian sources, blew up whatever
  was left of the camp and destroyed all remaining records.” An
  apology is also owed to Catholic clergy whose appeals the Church
  ignored. Archbishop Misic of Mostar, Herzegovina, asked Stepinac to use
  his influence with authorities to prevent the massacres. And Bulajic
  wrote of a group of Slovenian Catholic priests who were “sent to the
  Jasenovac camp because they refused to serve a mass of thanksgiving to
  Ustasha leader Ante Pavelic… One of the imprisoned Slovenian priests,
  Anton Rantasa, managed to escape… On 10 November 1942, he informed
  [Stepinac and the papal legate Ramiro Marcone]… on the crimes of
  genocide being perpetrated at Jasenovac. He was told to keep silent.”
  Similarly, historian Savich writes, “It bears noting that Stepinac was
  tried and convicted… by Roman Catholic Croats… under the regime of a
  Roman Catholic Croatian… Many of the historians who documented the
  Ustasha NDH genocide were Roman Catholic Croats, such as Viktor Novak.” In his 1950 book Behind the Purple Curtain,
  Walter Montano wrote of the Stepinac trial: “A parade of prosecution
  witnesses testified at Zagreb, on October 5, 1946, that Catholic priests
  armed with pistols went out to convert Orthodox Serbs and massacred
  them… Most of the witnesses were Croat Catholic peasants and
  laborers.” INDEED, JUST as blame for tacit approval of a
  genocide and subsequent escape for the perpetrators can’t fall merely on
  “a few individuals,” it’s more than a few individuals who deserve
  credit for the opposite. For example, Jews were saved by the entire
  Catholic nation of Italy (in its sovereign pre-1943 form), including the
  commandant of the Ferramonti concentration camp, who “said his job was
  to protect the inmates, not kill them,” as UPI reported in 2003. Not
  surprisingly, Italian soldiers also intervened in the slaughter of Serbs
  by Croats and Axis-aligned Albanians in Kosovo. Unfortunately, rather than distancing the Church from Aloysius Stepinac, the Vatican-centered newspaper L’Osservatore Romano
  responded that the “trial was a trial against the Catholic Church.” New
  York cardinal Francis Spellman outrageously named a parochial school in
  White Plains after Stepinac, and in 1952 Pius XII made him cardinal.
  Then, despite requests by the Simon Wiesenthal Center to hold off until the cardinal’s wartime role could be better assessed, Pope John Paul II beatified Stepinac in 1998.
  Croatian groups (and some Croatian Jews) even appealed to Yad Vashem to
  give Stepinac the Righteous Gentile title, since he saved some Jews on
  condition of conversion. To which Yad Vashem had to reply in almost
  absurd terms: “Persons who assisted Jews but simultaneously collaborated
  or were linked with a fascist regime which took part in the
  Nazi-orchestrated persecution of Jews, may be disqualified for the
  Righteous title.” The same should be said to Pope Benedict
  about his efforts to canonize Pius XII. Even as it denied Stepinac’s
  well known association with the Ustasha, Pius’s Vatican served as the
  conduit for smuggling the Ustashas out after the war. According to
  declassified US documents introduced in a recent class-action lawsuit
  against the Vatican Bank for laundering Ustasha loot – used to finance
  the Ustashas’ escapes and postwar sustenance – Pavelic was hidden in a
  Croatian Catholic monastery in Rome,
  where the office of the American Counterintelligence Corps on September
  12, 1947, reported that “Pavelic’s contacts are so high, and his
  present position is so compromising to the Vatican, that any extradition
  of subject would deal a staggering blow to the Roman Catholic Church.”
  From Rome, Pavelic fled to Argentina, where he became a security adviser to Juan Peron, who issued thousands of visas to fleeing Ustashas. Haaretz in 2006 reported that Msgr. Giovanni Battista Montini, Pius’s undersecretary of state and later Pope Paul VI,
  learned of “the investigation [that US Army counterintelligence agent
  William] Gowen’s unit was conducting. Montini complained about Gowen to
  his superiors and accused him of having violated the Vatican’s immunity
  by having entered church buildings, such as the Croatian college, and
  conducting searches there. The aim of the complaint was to interfere
  with the investigation.” A May 2007 press release from
  plaintiffs’ attorney Jonathan Levy in the Vatican Bank case states, “To
  date, the Vatican attorneys… [are] insisting that the Vatican Bank’s
  money laundering scheme for Axis plunder violated no international law,
  since the Ustasha’s victims, mainly Orthodox Christian Serbs, were
  technically citizens of ‘Independent’ Croatia. The unrepentant tone of
  the Vatican bodes poorly for Pius XII and the current controversy
  involving his elevation to sainthood.” THE VATICAN’S ongoing
  World War II identity crisis was evident last September when, after
  prodding from Croatian leaders, Zagreb Archbishop Josip Bozanic paid a
  60-year-late visit to the Jasenovac memorial site, the first official
  representative of the Croatian Church to attend the annual memorial
  ceremony. Instead of an apology, Bozanic defended Stepinac and the
  Church, and used the long-awaited moment to also mourn the massacre of
  fleeing Nazis by partisans in Bleiburg, Austria
  – where an annual, Croatian government-sponsored commemoration ceremony
  is well attended by Catholic dignitaries. Bozanic was not reproached by
  the Vatican, which also doesn’t reproach the Croatian Church’s
  tolerance of the ubiquitous pro-Nazi symbolism in that country, which
  reemerged as Croatian “culture” in the early 1990s. President
  Stjepan Mesic himself, who just left office after 10 years, had to
  recently ask the Vatican to pay closer attention to a bishop and
  military chaplain who regularly recites a violent poem that ends with
  the Ustasha saying: “For the fatherland, ready.” This is the
  Balkan country that’s on the fast-track for EU membership. That’s where
  decades of evasion, deflection and cover-up get us, something that
  contributed to John Paul II’s
  own neglect of Jasenovac – the Balkans’ largest killing grounds –
  during his three trips to Croatia. It also leads us to last December’s
  spectacle of Pope Benedict having a private audience with Marko
  Perkovic, lead singer of the notorious clerical-fascist Croatian pop
  band Thompson, which regularly invokes “For the fatherland, ready” and
  had odes to concentration camps on earlier albums. Many Thompson fans
  engage in Nazi salutes, and nuns and politicians attend the “patriotic”
  concerts. People bury history in order to repeat it. John Ranz, chairman of Buchenwald Survivors, in a 1996 letter to The New York Times,
  wrote: “Ironically, with US help, [1990s president] Franjo Tudjman was
  able to accomplish last year what the Nazis and their World War II
  collaborators could not, namely the uprooting of the entire Serbian
  Krajina population… The World War II fascist regime of Ante Pavelic is
  being officially rehabilitated in Croatia today. Streets and public
  buildings are being named after the architects of the Holocaust,
  Nazi-era currency revived, while the numbers and scope of the human
  carnage are being rewritten.” Had history not been dumped into a mass grave, Western publics might have been allowed a fuller understanding of the Balkan wars,
  given that by 1991 it was “normal to kill Serbs,” as Zarko Puhovski, of
  the Helsinki Committee for Human Rights, put it. When Croatia seceded
  from Yugoslavia in June 1991 – and the Vatican was the first to
  recognize it despite a UN resolution warning this could imperil a
  peaceful solution – survival dictated that the Serbs secede from the
  secessionists. “A few days after the Croatians declared war,” writes
  historian Israel, Pope John Paul II “sent a letter to the Yugoslav
  government demanding it not suppress the rebellion.” And so it was that
  in 1991 three Croatian soldiers saw “truckloads of bloated, stinking
  bodies, mothers and children blown up by bombs, and someone wearing a
  necklace made of ears,” Reuters reported on January 28, 1998.
  And so it was that president Tudjman was a prominent guest at the
  inauguration of the US Holocaust Memorial Museum in 1993, despite saying
  that “900,000 died, not 6 million,” and ranged from calling Jasenovac a
  “myth,” to blaming Jews for the killings there, to offering a formal
  apology for the 20,000 Jews killed there – but not for the several
  hundred thousand Serbs. And so it was that in 1995, as Croatian soldiers
  with Ustasha insignia cleansed the Krajina of Serbs – under US air
  cover – the Glina massacre survivor Ljuban Jednak once again fled for
  his life, dying a refugee in 1997. And so it was that in 2005,
  when then Hague prosecutor Carla del Ponte learned that indicted 1990s
  war criminal Gen. Ante Gotovina was being sheltered in a Franciscan
  monastery in Croatia, the Roman Catholic lady found herself  “‘extremely
  disappointed’ to encounter a wall of silence from the Vatican” which,
  she told the Daily Telegraph, “could probably pinpoint exactly which of Croatia’s 80 monasteries was sheltering him ‘in a few days.'”
  And so it was that at the 2006 inauguration of the spruced-up Jasenovac
  memorial, the Simon Wiesenthal Center’s Efraim Zuroff observed “the
  absence of any identification of the individuals responsible for the
  crimes described… I was amazed that none of the speakers mentioned…
  Croatia’s greatest achievement in facing its Ustasha past – the
  prosecution and conviction of Jasenovac commander Dinko Sakic… Could
  it be that the punishment of such a criminal… is so unpopular, even in
  today’s Croatia…?” And so it was that Sakic was buried last
  July in full Nazi uniform, with a Father Vjekoslav Lasic – one of many
  who hold masses in honor of Ante Pavelic – officiating. “Independent
  State of Croatia is the foundation of today’s homeland of Croatia,”
  Lasic said. “Every honorable Croat is proud of the name Dinko Sakic.”When
  no Croatian official of stature spoke out against the display, Zuroff
  called on the president to condemn the organizers and remind Croatian
  society that Sakic brought it shame, not pride. In enshrining
  the Church’s divided World War II loyalties by canonizing the
  ambivalent pope at the time, the Church would be announcing to the world
  what it’s made of. But the Church is better than the sum of its nastier
  parts. Canonizing Pius XII would be unjust to Catholics who did more
  than he, and an insult to Catholics everywhere. Pius shouldn’t be
  demonized, but he shouldn’t be sanctified. The writer specializes in the Balkans, and is an unpaid advisory board member of the American Council for Kosovo.

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  anonimo

  11 de Setembro, 2011 at 22:07

  Se querem que vos diga, eu mesmo ás vezes penso que Deus não existe! Contudo, sinto exactamente o contrário. Sei que os cristãos, muitas vezes sentem “raiva” de vocês os ateus pois vocês têm os vossos argumentos para acreditarem que Deus não existe e tais argumentos na maior parte das vezes deixam os cristãos á flor da pele, por exemplo sem querer apontar dedos a ninguém (mas voces têm cérebros e são inteligentes, por isso sabem de quem eu falo) mas sei que há um cristão que debate contra voces nos comentários e essa não é a melhor forma de nós (cristãos) nos “apresentarmos” a voces. Vi algumas coisas ofensivas contra cristãos neste site (mas também a culpa é minha pois eu é que vim cá) coisas que me deixaram tristes, mas percebo que é o que voces sentem e a mensagem que voces querem dar, espero que um dia possam encontrar Deus como eu encontrei (ou não, pois Ele dá-nos escolha para o seguimos ou não, somos livre). Gostava que voces soubessem que a Bíblia não é só um mero livro ( como penso que voces o vêm, nao sei se o vêm mais como um livro histórico ) mas sim algo que está sempre atual apesar do mudar dos anos e espaços, e ainda é mais do que isso é para nós a palavra Dele, palavra que até muitos cristãos desrespeitam.
   Mesmo sendo ateus voces são humanos e sentem amor, por isso desejo que a comunidade ateia em Portugal viva com amor e paz. Paz que muitas vezes é abaldroada por nós cristãos (e outras religiões) mesmo não pertencendo á fé católica sei que os ateus sofreram ás mãos deles durante o tempo da Inquisição e penso que ainda hoje sofrem, mesmo que isto não vos diga nada, Peço Desculpas pelo o que eles fizeram pois não é um acto vindo de Deus (mas sim do homem e do inferno).  

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